jeroen1985 Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Hi All, I was just looking on Ruby's website I look what I found ! A Breitling Heritage with ETA 2824 for 219 dollars! Damn what a price. But is it the same as the Silix version ? And is it A REAL ETA ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonSlayer Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Doubt the ETA is genuine ETA, it's most probably a hybrid movement or an asian 'clone'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capice Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 c'man J, what da ya think for that price, only a real swiss mvt is going for at least 200 euro=280 dollars so........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvn Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 I did not know Ruby has a website, would someone care to share the link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodwc Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Doubt the ETA is genuine ETA, it's most probably a hybrid movement or an asian 'clone'. Doubt and probability are two different things. I bought my Breit. superocean heritage, Swiss ETA 2824 for $240 ................3 months ago. I have opened the case and it is just that. Please do not doubt , that there are other dealers willing to drop their prices for a sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodwc Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 I did not know Ruby has a website, would someone care to share the link? Someone with posts of almost 1000, and been a member for over 2 years, and you do not know that Ruby has a web site.................. OH MAN, where have you been , and just what are you doing.? Try http://nicereplica.com/article.php?T=How%20To%20Order Edit. the Breitling Superocean Heritage is not listed on Ruby`s site here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiparks Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) Someone with posts of almost 1000, and been a member for over 2 years, and you do not know that Ruby has a web site.................. OH MAN, where have you been , and just what are you doing.? Try http://nicereplica.com/article.php?T=How%20To%20Order Edit. the Breitling Superocean Heritage is not listed on Ruby`s website, OR on her site here. never mind, my gibbon brain found it.... Edited June 3, 2008 by asiparks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegendofSpeed Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 http://nicereplica.com/pro_detail.php?ProId=295 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltatahoe Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Someone with posts of almost 1000, and been a member for over 2 years, and you do not know that Ruby has a web site.................. OH MAN, where have you been , and just what are you doing.? this is too funny -- i had no idea ruby has a website either don't worry, you're in good company dvn deltatahoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b16a2 Posted June 3, 2008 Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 Ditto haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeroen1985 Posted June 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2008 You guys are really funny !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonSlayer Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Doubt and probability are two different things. I bought my Breit. superocean heritage, Swiss ETA 2824 for $240 ................3 months ago. I have opened the case and it is just that. Please do not doubt , that there are other dealers willing to drop their prices for a sale. Hey Rod, yes I agree some sellers are willing to drop their prices for a sale. However I'm not sure if you read the post by EuroTimez, but many clone movements look almost exactly the same as a genuine ETA movement. I don't know much about movements but these good clones have the stamp etc. He said that most people simply wouldn't be able to tell by opening the caseback and looking at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EuroTimez Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 You got 3 grades, 1.Copy ETA 2. Second grade (recycled, old stock, hybrid between ETA and Copy ETA, rusty ones etc) 3. NEW ETA (this is the one I sell). At 240 usd, and at 219 usd if I look at my buy-in rates they won't have anything left... 219 is out of the question!! The 2824-2 are very expensive more than the 2836-2 so IMHO I doubt it is a gen or it must be old-stock/recycled.... If Rodwc would take some pictures of the movement, I'll take a look at it... because COPY ETA also have stamps and engravings on them... I need high quality pics from different sides tho... But the best way according to my watchmaker who opens every single watch-case-back, said the best indication is to look at the ROTOR, take off the rotor and you will see the difference if you know where to look for... But at 219 usd that is close to impossible! I just have my doubts, perhaps some dealers would like to do volunteer work or maybe they have a good heart who knows?! I could be wrong.... You got 3 grades, 1.Copy ETA 2. Second grade (recycled, old stock, hybrid between ETA and Copy ETA, rusty ones etc) 3. NEW ETA (this is the one I sell). At 240 usd, and at 219 usd if I look at my buy-in rates they won't have anything left... 219 is out of the question!! The 2824-2 are very expensive more than the 2836-2 so IMHO I doubt it is a gen or it must be old-stock/recycled.... If Rodwc would take some pictures of the movement, I'll take a look at it... because COPY ETA also have stamps and engravings on them... I need high quality pics from different sides tho... But the best way according to my watchmaker who opens every single watch-case-back, said the best indication is to look at the ROTOR, take off the rotor and you will see the difference if you know where to look for... But at 219 usd that is close to impossible! I just have my doubts, perhaps some dealers would like to do volunteer work or maybe they have a good heart who knows?! I could be wrong.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodwc Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 You got 3 grades, 1.Copy ETA 2. Second grade (recycled, old stock, hybrid between ETA and Copy ETA, rusty ones etc) 3. NEW ETA (this is the one I sell). At 240 usd, and at 219 usd if I look at my buy-in rates they won't have anything left... 219 is out of the question!! The 2824-2 are very expensive more than the 2836-2 so IMHO I doubt it is a gen or it must be old-stock/recycled.... If Rodwc would take some pictures of the movement, I'll take a look at it... because COPY ETA also have stamps and engravings on them... I need high quality pics from different sides tho... But the best way according to my watchmaker who opens every single watch-case-back, said the best indication is to look at the ROTOR, take off the rotor and you will see the difference if you know where to look for... But at 219 usd that is close to impossible! I just have my doubts, perhaps some dealers would like to do volunteer work or maybe they have a good heart who knows?! I could be wrong.... Sure, when you say high quality pics , what resolution and size do you need ? Don`t really want to take the hands and dial off. We could all very well learn something here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeroen1985 Posted June 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Nice pictures RODWC I hope Chris will post some pictures so that we can comparise a clone ETA en real ETA !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikellem Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Swiss movement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiker01 Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 Hey Rod, yes I agree some sellers are willing to drop their prices for a sale. However I'm not sure if you read the post by EuroTimez, but many clone movements look almost exactly the same as a genuine ETA movement. I don't know much about movements but these good clones have the stamp etc. He said that most people simply wouldn't be able to tell by opening the caseback and looking at it. So, are we better off buying this: http://nicereplica.com/pro_detail.php?ProId=396 the Asian 21J model??? What do people think? Good buy? Junk? Keep off? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltatahoe Posted June 4, 2008 Report Share Posted June 4, 2008 this is a very interesting thread; i'm looking forward to seeing chris' response deltatahoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodwc Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 this is a very interesting thread; i'm looking forward to seeing chris' response deltatahoe Still waiting Chris. This is something which affects every buyer of a , so called SWISS ETA 2824-2 movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodwc Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 @ eurotimez. sorry but I don`t think this is quite fair to the members here by not replying to the above posts, especially after making statements regarding the Breitling Heritage 2824 eta movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takashi Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 I think the one really good movement on this piece comes from Silix which is featured on SD4K review (well decorated 2824-2, nickel plated). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff g Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 Interesting thread. I traded for a new SOH back in Jan. I LOVE this watch. One of my all time favorites. One problem. From the get go the movement was suspect. Crown was 'wobbly', and 'ratchety'..., the watch would stop in the middle of the day.. .strange for an 'automatic'. Worked very marginally for 8 weeks, then eventually froze. I always liked the Heritage enough to send it out for service, but now I have no choice. It seems odd that a case and dial from a single factory would have so many different movement variations. I agree with the sentiment that says, 'Why buy an eta model of this watch for 250.00 and then pay to have it serviced, when you could pay half the cost for the Asian 21J, and then have IT serviced. After all, a well serviced 21J will probably last just as long as an eta. Right.?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodwc Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 It seems odd that a case and dial from a single factory would have so many different movement variations. I agree with the sentiment that says, 'Why buy an eta model of this watch for 250.00 and then pay to have it serviced, when you could pay half the cost for the Asian 21J, and then have IT serviced. After all, a well serviced 21J will probably last just as long as an eta. Right.?? Possibly, but at this stage the majority of us don`t know if we actually received a Swiss eta 2824-2. "But the best way according to my watchmaker who opens every single watch-case-back, said the best indication is to look at the ROTOR, take off the rotor and you will see the difference if you know where to look for..." Euro-timez made this statement, but as yet hasn`t backed it up with any factual points, and at this stage the statement is looking nothing more than a sales ploy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letter Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 give him some time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emuozz Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 give him some time! How much time?...He stated that it wasn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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